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John, you asked what Mint does differently then Ubuntu that just installing restricted-extras doesnt do: Adds a white/blacklist content filter for those who want a basic net nanny type thing Isnt brown Works with most laptop wirelesses out of the box where sometimes you need a driver in the restricted-extras (or so I understand) Its one less step in setting up a customer's box Its laid out in a windows-like manner (eg single panel across the bottom) so new users to linux find it usable from the start. -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html