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Thanks for all your help on this one. By far the best appears for me appears to be NDO - assuming they can do top-up at the sort of prices and transfer for free -not clear if that available for the cheaper version.... Tom te tom te tom -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html