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Any of these things do automatic compression? I've just been laughing at people saying that they need 50Meg BB at home and then went to a web site with 'thumbnails' that were 2.8 meg images sized small Tom te tom te tom -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html