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On Thu, 11 Jun 2009, Rob Beard wrote: > Grant Sewell wrote: >> In many cases, not even FTP! We (my company) have had dealings with >> SWGfL regarding trying to get outbound (passive-mode) FTP to a single >> Internet-visible IP address. >> >> Of course, you could always submit a "change form" to them. >> >> Grant. >> > Sounds to me like they're a bunch of cowboys! > > I don't think I've known an ISP to sound so bad, even AOL aren't that bad! > > How exactly do they provide a connection, is it ADSL or some sort of > bespoke connection (fibre maybe?). When I had a look, it was bog-standard 2Mb leased lines (and maybe 8Mb ones to secondarys). RM were involved, as was BT, so I suspect it fed into some MPLS type network to do the actual plumbing and backhaul to some head-end and onto the global Internet. It's not rocket science, and personally not sure I'd bother with MPLS, but a lot will boil down to cost. There are now good deals to be had on LAN extensions, and even fixed-price 2Mb lines back to London from anywhere in the country, so there are many options avalable outside of ADSL. I know that the people who were doing the install were piggy-backing 2Mb lines inside a town where fesable - eg. to a small number of primary schools using EPS8 curcuits - this is a 2 or 4 wire "dry copper" circuit, bridged at the exchange - that's what we had from the primary school to our HQ (cybercafe) in Buckfastleigh. Relatively cheap at the time. Wouldn't be surprised if BT were doing away with them now... Gordon -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html