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thanks for that Matthew. I've looked at sugar again and it's GPL3 so I
can't really see what's wrong with it. Chock full of advertising for
paid services/prof. eds but that can be ignored. I understand it integrates with Joomla but I prefer Drupal and I don't think that integration is so good, if it exists at all. Still, it may not matter if we keep our crm and our websites distinct, it may even be an advantage. I've gone for semi-managed which allows limited ssh access but they manage the mailserver and o/s which is just fine by me. Matthew. Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: Hi Matthew, Quoting Matthew <matthew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:So does anyone know of a) good, genuinely (e.g. not SugarCRM or forks) open source CRM/mailshot software that we can install on the webserver and that will play with drupal (if not integrate seamlessly with it) and allow us to track opens, clickthroughs and bounces [but not CiviCRM; that's a nightmare and far too complex for its own good: I did use it to send out a substantial email to our database and it failed dramatically];Any reason why not sugar? It works, it's solid and it's v. flexible, not to mention that most of the things you need to do (such as integration with Joomla etc.) have already been written.b) inexpensive VPS hosting for a mailserver; this bit does not need to be so powerful as its main purpose will be to handle smtp requests and send responses to appropriate places based on the return traffic.http://www.cheapvps.co.uk/ - I work for a major Hosting supplier but our VPS's are far more than that and it seems like cost is an issue. Do bear in mind that you get what you pay for. I use one of the above as a development server. There are no SLAs, no guarantees of up-time or stability and you have to do everything apart from install the Base-O/S yourself. If you want the OS and software installed/SLAs etc, you need to spend money. Doing things on the cheap always comes back to bite you on the ar*e in my experience.As y'all can probably tell, I don't know too much about this subject but it surely does not need to cost a mint to host a website and mailserver that can handle bounces via VERP??Having said all of the above, I'd offer the advice that you're probably best off using one of the following two options: 1) Co-Location of your own hardware - you own the hardware, you host it where you want and you maintain it. If it goes wrong, it's _your_ fault. 2) Managed Virtual/Dedicated Server - you login via a control panel such as PLESK. If you want software installed, you ask the managing company to install it. You _DO NOT_ have shell access. If it fails, it is often _their_ fault. The two above options are not cheap, but they will provide your business with far more options in the future. Hope that is of some help, Matt. -- Matthew Fairtlough Old Seymour Lodge Bridgetown, Totnes, TQ9 5BA, UK mobile: 0771 767 2481 land: 01803 840453 |
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