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Henry Bremridge wrote: > I am intending to write a letter to our elected representatives pointing out the > cost of MS and the alternatives available; hence areas where Devon CC can > considerably increase the value of their IT spending. If looked at intelligently. 2nd tranche, going back in time. Italian Parliament defenestration ( midgley) 13/07/2007, 13:26 http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=40957 Sensible of them. Defenestration: Microsoft's office suite: open format conversion ( midgley) 01/08/2007, 15:33 SUN has a plugin that can save MSoffice files in ODF format. http://www.sun.com/software/star/openoffice/ down the page a bit Boston tea party stewed? ( midgley) 03/08/2007, 23:15 http://www.consortiuminfo.org/standardsblog/article.php?story=20070801182558375 the interim CIO has announced that MS' new office format will be acceptable for archiving. From the closed government point of view it is convenient to have a way of saving documents that makes them hard to read after a while. However this is probably due to simpler .............. politics. Thinkpad Linux preinstalls - Lenovo picks SuSE ( midgley) 07/08/2007, 8:58 http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/08/06/lenovo_linux/ SuSE Linux is what our Thinkpads have been running. Dell: Linux: UK: tomorrow (preinstalled Ubuntu) ( midgley) 08/08/2007, 23:44 http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/08/08/dell_ubuntu/ One model each of laptop and desktop to start with. Standard kit. Google adds Star Office to Google Pack ( midgley) 13/08/2007, 1:00 http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2007/08/google-pack-adds-staroffice.html Interesting. SOffice is largely common code with OOffice.org but has assorted bits and pieces added. So anyone who downloads the free Google pack gets a free office suite if they want it, now. Add synchronisation of documents from it via Google's documents servers and on-line editing of same, and it begins to look like a general solution. converting MSO templates to OOo templates ( midgley) 13/08/2007, 1:02 http://openoffice.blogs.com/openoffice/2007/01/openoffice_temp.html Exercise some caution with the result, but it should at least speed conversion if you have any forms etc. RE: Defenestration ( midgley) 04/12/2007, 13:49 Ingram Micro is a supplier of PCs. They now offer Acer desktops and laptops with linux installed for about £50 less than the windows versions. 0 colleagues voted this a quality posting. Dutch pull finger out, oh boy ( midgley) 17/12/2007, 15:13 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/12/17/dutch_gov_open_source_standards/ vrije means free as in speech, like libre, not gratuit. ... Norway 2 (ODF); Italian foreign ministry ( midgley) 24/12/2007, 15:27 Norway goes ODF http://www.regjeringen.no/en/dep/fad/pressesenter/pressemeldinger/2007/Apne-dokumentstandarder-blir-obligatoris.html?id=494810 http://virtuelvis.com/archives/2007/12/norway-mandates-html-pdf-odf Regjeringa har vedteke at all informasjon på statlege nettsider skal vere tilgjengeleg i dei opne dokumentformata HTML, PDF eller ODF. Tida der offentlege dokument berre var tilgjengelege i Microsofts Word-format vil med det gå mot slutten. [Groklaw part trans: * ODF (ISO/IEC 26300) must be used when publishing documents that are meant to be changed after downloading, eg. forms that are to be filled in by the user.] Italian Ministry of Economics and Finance uses Linux for mission-critical apps http://www.computerweekly.com/Articles/2007/12/18/228650/italian-ministry-of-economics-and-finance-uses-linux-for-mission-critical.htm The Italian Ministry of Economics and Finance has selected Red Hat Linux systems to run the organisation's mission-critical applications. From OSWALD This Digest is sponsored by Open Source Law http://www.opensourcelaw.biz see also: http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/brendansweb/opensource/ 2subscribe: email oswald@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx with "Subscribe oswald" in subject line 2unsubscribe: email oswald@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx with "Unsubscribe oswald" in subject line Note: This email list is manually generated. Archives: http://www.osia.net.au/news/oswald Dell supplies later Ubuntu etc ( Midgley) 27/12/2007, 14:37 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/12/19/ubuntu_gutsy_dell/ 0 colleagues voted this a quality posting. Russian schools - largescale FLOSS, Linux move ( Midgley) 20/01/2008, 10:46 http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/2008/01/russian-schools-say-to-open-source.html "this year the open source software packages will be installed in 1200 schools in pilot regions, i.e. Perm Territory, Tomsk Region, and Tatarstan. Although abroad Linux is widely used in state institutions and at schools (in the Spanish province of Estremadura it is installed on all school computers), such a large-scale migration to the open source software has not been carried out before. After testing in three pilot regions over 2008 and making adjustments, Linux is planned to be installed in more than 61 thousand Russian schools." Bolshoyeh! ... Want Russian Linux? ( Midgley) 20/01/2008, 10:51 "we have launched the site http://linux.armd.ru, where the distributive current versions might be downloaded by anyone." From http://eng.cnews.ru/news/top/indexEn.shtml?2008/01/15/283177 "I believe only 5% of software in Russian schools is legal". I'm disinclined to criticise efforts to use software whose authors want it used rather than software whose authors object to current use. MS don't of course, whatever they say, along th usual "First hit is free" lines. Paris Police Prefer Penguins ( Midgley) 31/01/2008, 12:27 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/01/30/french_open/ Microsoft will be storming the Bastille no doubt. Solothurn (Swiss); Macedonia ( MiDgLeY) 03/03/2008, 18:14 The swiss canton Solothurn is migrating 2000 desktops to Debian GNU / Linux http://times.debian.net/1224 The IT adminstration of the swiss canton Solothurn will conclude the 2000 desktop migration to Debian GNU / Linux by the end of 2008. ..."The independence from suppliers and its business policy played an important role with our decision. Beyond that, the low cost of optimization was an important argument for the free operating system Debian GNU / Linux". The Ministry of Finance in the Republic of Macedonia uses Debian GNU Linux in its servers http://times.debian.net/1221 Update on Vienna ( MiDgLeY) 03/03/2008, 18:14 The City of Vienna & Open Source: A Fuzzy-Logic Story http://www.cognitivecombine.com/?p=224 Wienux, the Vienna distribution ( MiDgLeY) 03/03/2008, 18:18 http://www.wien.gv.at/ma14/wienux.html If you sprechen Deutsch or want to this may be handy for you. I think it is prudent to reserve money against the possible failure of a move, although whether reserving it for VIsta licnces is prudent is another can of annelids. Specsavers [UK commercial] ( MiDgLeY) 04/03/2008, 8:38 Specsavers sees clear benefits in open source http://resources.zdnet.co.uk/articles/casestudy/0,1000001994,39303425,00.htm The expanding Specsavers has an official corporate policy to use open-source software and open standards by default. (from the OSWALD newsletter, as are points above) Singapura 2004 ( Midgley) 05/03/2008, 22:31 Gov ditched Microsoft Office. Munich[1] ( Midgley) 05/03/2008, 22:34 2008 is the intended roll-out of office desktop Linux in Munich's city government. [1] I can't be doing with Umlauts or I'd spell it how they do. IBM reinvents the PC, Microsoft-free ( Midgley) 05/03/2008, 22:35 http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2008/03/05/ibm_open_referent/ Linux ... MS business model and the race to the bottom ( Midgley) 08/03/2008, 10:13 http://www.flickr.com/photos/gmleuty/2316865025/?addedcomment=1#comment72157604071594191 MS sell Windows for $3 in large portions of the world, this is probably no more than twice its marginal cost of production and distribution, which is where economic theory predicts its price will be going. MS propose to take on considerable levels of debt to service an acquisition of Yahoo. (I think they would be mad, but if they carry on I'll only worry about the collateral damage. European parliament streaming etc petition ( Midgley) 08/03/2008, 11:40 http://www.openparliament.eu/mep-petition-campaign/open-mep-access-petition Some of you will want to join me and Glyn moody in signing this petition. Off you go. US Navy ( Midgley) 18/03/2008, 0:33 http://www.fcw.com/online/news/151858-1.html 0 colleagues voted this a quality posting. HP preloads SuSE for India, but not yet EMEA ( Midgley) 19/03/2008, 13:09 http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2008/03/18/hp_novell_india_suse_deal/ 0 colleagues voted this a quality posting. Bristol saved money: £ 1.1 million ( Midgley) 24/03/2008, 13:12 http://www.computerworlduk.com/toolbox/open-source/blogs/index.cfm?entryid=592&blogid=14 Bristol dumped Microsoft Office, in favour of the adequate and largely Open Source Star Office derivative of Open Office, which comes with support from SUN, a large and commonly reliable IT company although American. They have carried on running Windows on their desktops, mainly, for the moment. Moving piece by piece is sensible. They also moved to the ISO standard file format, ODF, which MS is currently trying to undermine with FUD, slurs, stacking and somehting I cannot distinguish from bribery with any degree of reliability. "implementing StarOffice for 5,500 desktops in Bristol saved 1.1 million GBP (1.4 million euro) in comparison to the total cost of implementing Microsoft Office. "The licences for StarOffice cost us 186,000 GBP (243,000 euro), in comparison to 1.4 million GBP (1.8 million euro) for MS Office." These major savings were offset slightly by extra time needed for implementing StarOffice. Implementation cost the city council 484,000 GBP (632,000 euro), double the estimate for MS Office. This was due to document conversion and training, said the IT Strategy manager. Explaining and troubleshooting the new office applications took several months more than planned. " If you were a ratepayer in Bristol, or a GP needing support for your patients from the council's social services, you would no doubt be pleased by this. If you are a ratepayer, etc, elsewhere, then it would appear likely that a saving of the same order is available for you if your council were persuaded to adopt the same view. Make it so, is my advice 0 colleagues voted this a quality posting. (Unless you livein Newham, of course) ( Midgley) 24/03/2008, 13:14 where the open source related saving appears to be that rather than Newham paying Microsoft for software and support and development, Microsoft are paying Newham to use it, and to say it is good. An old business model, and one which is illegal in some jurisdictions. 0 colleagues voted this a quality posting. Freiburg going Free ( Midgley) 24/03/2008, 13:54 http://www.computerworlduk.com/toolbox/open-source/blogs/index.cfm?entryid=621&blogid=14 I've never been there, but it looks nice enough from orbit. http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Freiburg,+Germany&ie=UTF8&ll=48.005544,7.859344&spn=0.119904,0.31311&t=h&z=11 "In the German city of Freiburg, four hundred of the two thousand PCs used by the city council are now running OpenOffice. The migration to the Open Source suite of office applications is a intermediate goal, saving the city up to half a million euro in licence costs. The city's final aim is to switch to an Open Source desktop. " Interestingly they started with a move to the ISO document standard, ODF, and express concern that Microsoft's escapades have now rendered the national standards orgnaisations unreliabe for public authorities. Those of us who deal with public authorities should regard that with some alarm. 0 colleagues voted this a quality posting. Swiss schools give Windows the boot from dual boot menu ( mIdgley) 09/04/2008, 19:10 It is their view of best practice. Mine, also. http://education.zdnet.com/?p=1615 Picked up via the Enquirer. "9000 computers in Swiss schools have been dual-booting Windows and and Ubuntu for some time now in anticipation of guidelines from the Switzerland’s Department of Public Instruction, whose motto is “Long Live Free Software.” The Tribune de Geneve featured a story on Friday about the elimination of dual boot capabilities in all of these machines and a migration exclusively to Linux (the original story is available here in French or here in English courtesy of Google’s language tools). Beginning this September, all 9000 computers will run only Ubuntu and free and open source software. While officials are happy to be saving money on licensing, the Department of Public instruction largely made the move out of what they considered best practices for student education" 0 colleagues voted this a quality posting. ... vive les logiciels libre ( mIdgley) 09/04/2008, 19:15 http://www.tdg.ch/pages/home/tribune_de_geneve/recherche/recherche_3_2_1/(contenu)/211880 0 colleagues voted this a quality posting. Free MS not good VFM! Newham fires Microsoft. ( Midgley) 18/04/2008, 22:19 http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/04/18/microsoft-flagship-flounders Hot shit! 0 colleagues voted this a quality posting. Geneva schools ( mIdgley) 30/04/2008, 18:43 http://ec.europa.eu/idabc/en/document/7576/6008 Progressively to Linux and OOo "About 70,000 students and their 7,000 teachers in the Geneva school district will gradually be moving to Open Source." ... -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html