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Hi Al Thanks for that, I am afraid I did not explain myself very well. I wish to find out what version of Java Ubuntu ships with. I have upgraded all of my boxes to sun-java6 so I have no way of telling for sure. Thanks Peter L-J -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html