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Hi I have my son in laws old computer (with quite a good spec) running Window$ which keeps on crashing after about an hour. I asked before here and I think we settled for heat problems, but then it would only last 15 mins max. (I have reset a lot of BIOS stuff - and its winter!). I have booted it up with an old Ubuntu live CD (can not remove windoze (not my computer - yet)). This will help to discover if the problem is Windows related (It crashed on Linux previously) . Is there anything I can use to try and work out what is happening? It has network and Internet access. Perhaps there is a way to capture its dieing gasp (But I currently can not write to disk). All the best Peter -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html