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On Saturday 22 November 2008 14:57, Steve Lee wrote: > 2008/11/22 peter <peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > > Basically there is not lot a learner need > > to get his head around, but when he does the sky's the limit so to > > speak! > > Well you can almost pick up the built in list and dictionary types > quicker that you can say "template generics" ;-) > > > I take it Tkinter is the GUI of choice? > > nah, pyGTK or wxPython or pyQT or pywin or ..... (note I did not say > the iPython command line is all you need , heh) It should be noted that learning to use an IDE is as big an investment in time and energy as learning a programming language. I come from VS.NET, which is probably THE best programming environment there is and its amazingly frustrating and counterproductive to not be able to do things in a click anymore as I try and withdraw from the C# sofa with coffee at 11 etc. Now that Netbeans 6.5 will allow me to do 'proper' debugging of PHP I'm going to invest some real time in re-learning it - I used if for some non-weapons grade* Java a few years ago and it was OK but nowhere near VS.NET. There is an early access Python plugin for NetBeans http://www.netbeans.org/features/python/index.html which has jython as well. If it comes close then I will be able to work relatively easily in several different languages - C,C++,Javascript/AJAX,Ruby, oh and Java! *just to add you can write weapons-grade code in asp if you know what your doing - MS didnt encourage that on the grounds of 'cant sell you the next upgrade if you find out the one you've got does it already! Tom te tom te tom > > Cheers > > -- > Steve Lee > Open Source Assistive Technology Software and Accessibility > fullmeasure.co.uk -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html