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You said > edit the grub.conf can't find it. > should work have you used grub before? In what sense? - only on start up, selecting the top item or XP. > > ie as root type grub in a shell so I get grub> then what? > > or this may help > http://www.debianadmin.com/configure-grub-and-usplash-settings-using-simple-gui-interface-in-ubuntu.html OK so it's not a simple job of editing menu.lst as it seemed at first. Thanks PS Dolphin is still searching for grub.conf. I'll have a look at it if I do find it. -- james kilty http://www.kilty.demon.co.uk -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html