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On Wednesday 19 March 2008 20:39, Simon Waters wrote: ... >t is "non-free", and removed the Debian customisations that upset > Mozilla, but then it wouldn't have been part of Debian at all, and > couldn't be included in the default install for a Desktop, and that > would have been stupid. Its about 'ownership'. Mozilla 'owns' the Firefox brand and wishes it to be a certain way so anyone using Firefox knows what they're getting. Debian got all prissy and wanted to change it. Mozilla said no - thats their right. Debian decided it couldnt get away without Firefox et all in its distributions but rather than put it into the non free section it chose to modify and rename. This benefited nobody. Thats not Mozillas fault - Debian chose to branch. While I agree with Debians purist approach in many respects can you imagine where Debian would be without 'proprietary' software and drivers?? Tom te tom te tom -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html