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Hi I also like Ubuntu, but get upset when they release it with things "broken" which worked on a previous version. A simple example being remote Login. It did work, it works no longer. A search of the Ubuntu site shows I am not the only one. Upgrading my Lappy, and my tablet broke. Give a dog a bad name, I now do not know if it is finger trouble or Ubuntu. My USB to a special USB port broke on upgrade, one has to install a hacked file. The system used to boot up quick, upgrade, then it took for ever until it was fixed a few upgrades latter. Having been in a position where I have had to send my teams stuff for software review (or whatever it is called now) it is not very clever. I suppose I stick with it as its the devil I know! All the best Peter L-J -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html