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There are so many programs in the repositories though I don't see how I can know if what I want is there?... Most packages have pretty good descriptions attached to them, so I find if I don't know the name of a package I'm looking for, I can just use synaptic to search for task related key-words (such as 'bittorrent' or 'music player' or some such thing). This will usually give me a pretty good list of options to pick from. OK, I think I'm seeing the diferances to Windows. You can see how the bad behaviour and habbits that I have developed from using Windows are affecting my ability to use Linux though. What about software that isn't in the Linux repositories that I cannot do with out ?.... I think you'll be surprised how rarely this actually happens, especially on debian based distros (like Ubuntu). In the rare circumstance where there's something you really need and it's not available via apt-get, then downloading the source and doing a "configure;make;make install" is really the only option you have left. This is something you should always avoid though, because this program now exists outside of your packaging system. This means you won't receive automatic security updates and bug fixes which could leave your system vulnerable. Just out of curiosity, is there a particular package that you do need that isn't in the repository, or are you just speculating? THere are lots of packages that I expext aren't in the repositories but only because I am interested in making music. An FTP client as long as it transfers the files doesn't matter which ones it is but with music programs sometimes one paticular function can really diferintiate it from another. Although saying this I must admit that I havn't fully cheked out the Linux music programs that people have pointed me towards here I as alternatives. My suspision,baised on other software that I have used; IE to Firefox; cute FTP to GFTP; Outlook to Evolution, is that they will be maybe slightly different but in no way inferior. THere is one program, Ableton Live that I have paticular interest in and the OS alternaitve Adour prehaps won't be as easy for me to pick up but will no doubt have similar if not better capabilities. I am in the process of installing it and learning it now....... Cheers, Jon. -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html