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Grant Sewell wrote: > On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:33:00 +0000 > Paul Sutton wrote: > > >> james kilty wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 2008-02-05 at 10:50 +0000, Tom Potts wrote: >>> >>> >>>> We had thousands of >>>> 'Management Consultants' giving courses and advice on management >>>> methods. They were all American, over here because their 'skills' >>>> had been tried and found seriously wanting in the States. >>>> >>>> >>> And how may times and at what expense has the NHS been reorganised >>> using management consultants? >>> >>> I think if we can offer support and advice, even training, we might >>> be able to drip feed our points about the benefit to schools and >>> pupils. County Councils and schools - perhaps as parents (or grand >>> parents) certainly as school governors. >>> >>> >>> >> I agree, lets just do it, (see below) I am more than keen to get >> involved with this. >> >> >>> I will have another go at my daughter's school - alas my days as >>> governor are long over. Ayt least I can offer an imput to year 11 >>> and see how well it goes down. >>> >>> >> The latest buzz word in schools is "learning platforms" essentially >> online learning so the students can continue at home, and submit work >> and collaborate with classmates while at hone on projects. >> >> The leading platform for this is moodle, there are offerings by >> companies such as RM (yeah I know) but its closed source etc, moodle >> however is the most used world wide, is available to everyone. >> There was an article on the site a while back or linked from the site >> that looked at both commercial and the oss offerings, not sure where >> it is, a hard copy is at work in the staff room. >> >> Anyway I printed this off and its currently in the school staff room >> >> suffice to say if we are to offer such services to schools they must >> >> be affordable to the school as no extra money is in the budget for >> this be a complete package, we need to approach schools sell moodle >> by its strength, and world wide usage. >> ask what happens if you goto suppplier X, you get staff trained up, >> that person leaves, to replace with a person with package X skills >> you are going to end up paying more >> go with moodle and there is a much larger pool of staff to >> potentially fill that gap in staffing, >> a complete package may be, for one school hosting, cost per month >> low, initial set up, training, tech support, etc etc, all need to >> be offered. I >> >> I think as a lug we need to actually get together, and perhaps set >> something up, there are people here with all the required skills to >> setup a business, and there are people like looking for work / >> training and want to get involved, >> >> I alone could probably get moodle up and running on debian. apt-get >> install moodle. but it needs someone who knows and understand >> education to get the most from it. we can offer a package to local >> schools but all work together on this one, perhaps set up a devon >> and cornwall moodle mailing list, which can also be used by schools >> to find staff, etc. >> >> Its possible, i just have no idea regarding how to set up a business >> for this type of things, but the opportunity is there we just need >> to grab it before someone like RM get in there and charge what ever >> they charge per month for hosting, >> >> get moodle in to schools show how good OSS is, and its a stepping >> stone to other OSS software in schools. and we are there to help >> support it, >> >> Paul >> > > Was going to split up your message and reply to it piecemeal, but > decided against it as it all fits together nicely. > > Anyway, to my point... it's would also be worth mentioning to the > Schools that the local Colleges also use Moodle. Certainly Cornwall > College do (and we are the largest... so nerrr :D) and I know Truro > *did* and I'm pretty sure they still so, and I believe Penwith does > too. Other than those, I'm not sure who uses what, but it's well liked > and used in FE/HE. > > Cheers. > Grant. > > I will try and find out what south devon college uses. Paul -- Support open file formats use ISO 26300 Open Document format as used by openoffice.org, http:///www.openoffice.org visit us on IRC - irc.flashtek-uk.com / 6667 #dclug -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version 3.1 GIT d S: a C+++ UL++++ P+ L++ W++ N+ W--- O! V! PS+ Y! t+++ 5 X+++ R tv- b- DI! D++ G e H! r! z? -----END GEEK CODE BLOCK---- -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html