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Hi Guys I'm glad I like Apple's - Steve Jobs would fire any approach like this: Initially heard about this via DaringFireball... apparently literally EVERYTHING about Vista is designed to be unintuitive, including the retail box!! Direct from Microsoft's very own website- Windows Help and How-To: "Opening the Windows Vista box" <http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/help/2e680b8d-211e-41c5-a0bf-9ccc6d7e62a21033.mspx> Good grief! Can you imagine what Steve Jobs would do to an employee who presented him with a retail box design that required an illustrated guide in order to open it?? -- Kind regards Rich http://www.cregy.co.uk Embracing what God does for you is the best thing you can do for him. Romans 12 v 1 -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html