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Apologies to everyone else. Sometime ago, John from Bude requested some advice concerning Ubuntu or Kubuntu (I can't remember which). At the time, I said that we are in Bude quite often and would be happy to call in to see him. We are coming there today but, I could not track him down in the members list and could not find his original email. We will be leaving in a few minutes. John, if you read this, are available to day and would still like some help, please call Phil (my husband on 07804 412696. I can't guarantee we will be able to answer all your questions but, are happy to try. regards Viv -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html