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Okay, many thanks for the reply :-) I've set up a new ad-hoc network on the XP box, "false-hackerz" - I get the following: (nb kernel is home brew - I seem to be stuck for wireless tools supporting v22 of Wireless extension though - I might have to build from source) alexis@pussycat:~$ sudo iwlist scanning lo Interface doesn't support scanning. eth0 Interface doesn't support scanning. Warning: Driver for device eth1 has been compiled with version 22 of Wireless Extension, while this program supports up to version 20. Some things may be broken... eth1 Scan completed : Cell 01 - Address: 00:14:7F:D9:4C:77 ESSID:"SpeedTouch5CEE2B" <-- this must be one of the neighbours Protocol:IEEE 802.11bg Mode:Master Channel:1 Frequency:2.412 GHz (Channel 1) Encryption key:on Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s; 9 Mb/s 11 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s; 24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s 48 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s Quality=89/100 Signal level=-69 dBm Noise level=-66 dBm IE: WPA Version 1 Group Cipher : TKIP Pairwise Ciphers (1) : TKIP Authentication Suites (1) : PSK Extra: Last beacon: 384ms ago Cell 02 - Address: 5E:15:5E:15:10:5C ESSID:"false-hackerz" <----------the XP laptop Protocol:IEEE 802.11b Mode:Ad-Hoc Channel:1 Frequency:2.412 GHz (Channel 1) Encryption key:on Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s Quality=98/100 Signal level=-44 dBm Noise level=-66 dBm Extra: Last beacon: 391ms ago from iwconfig I get: alexis@pussycat:~$ iwconfig lo no wireless extensions. eth0 no wireless extensions. Warning: Driver for device eth1 has been compiled with version 22 of Wireless Extension, while this program supports up to version 20. Some things may be broken... eth1 IEEE 802.11b/g ESSID:"none" Nickname:"Broadcom 4311" Mode:Managed Frequency=2.472 GHz Access Point: Invalid Bit Rate=1 Mb/s Tx-Power=18 dBm RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Link Quality=0/100 Signal level=-256 dBm Noise level=-256 dBm Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 I've tried running wpa_supplicant with an un-modified copy of its template config file - it makes a difference to the gui "Wireless Assistant" which can then see the speedtouch next door, but doesn't seem to affect the cli tools. So now I am stumped - I don't know what it is I'm missing because I don't really know what I'm looking for. On Tue, 2008-01-01 at 16:39 +0000, Kevin Lucas wrote: > whats the output from iwconfig? or iwscan is the windoze machine > running as an access point? > > have you used where eth0 is your wirless card name? > > iwconfig eth0 ap any > > > Alexis wrote: > > Happy New Year to all :-) > > > > I wonder if anyone in the group can further my understanding, or > > help solve this problem, or something like that. > > > > I've been trying to set up an ad-hoc wireless network with my wife's > > laptop and my own, just for the sake of actually being able to do it > > really. I managed after a great deal of messing about to do it in > > windows (hers has XP mine has Vista (which is vile evil demon spawn btw > > phut! phut!)). > > > > I've got my (Broadcom) wireless card working natively in Ubuntu where it > > can detect other networks, but I haven't figured out how to make it > > visible yet. It's not fully supported but I'm guessing if it can > > receive it can also transmit (plus there are other reports of success). > > So the root of the problem is how to get it so it is visible to the XP > > machine. I can use iwconfig to set the mode and and essid, and iwlist > > scanning to detect other networks, but got no further than this. > > > > Basically I'll be happy if I can get the XP machine to see this one now > > and can set up any other stuff from there, but beyond putting the card > > in ad-hoc mode and providing an essid I'm really stumped. We use wired > > ethernet for internet and file sharing so don't have a wireless access > > point to test against. So, help please! > > > > Many thanks in advance, > > Alexis > > > > > > > > > > -- > Regards: Kevin Lucas Post Master (Sub) Minions Shop & Tea Rooms > Minions Liskeard Cornwall PL14 5LE www.minionsbandb.co.uk -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html