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I have used several programming languages over many years. The most recent one is Python, which is the first to include OOP. I have tried ever so hard to get to grips with classes etc, but there must be a blind spot somewhere. I have tried several books and teaching sites on the internet. I still have problems, must be getting thicker in my old age. Does anyone have any favourite books, web sites etc which I might try to get my head round this please? There must be one out there somewhere which will cause it all to suddenly 'click'. (Or perhaps I am past hope.) Thanks Neil Winchurst -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html