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Behind a tatty rose I have found a Sky satellite dish!!! This may explain regular but confused calls from sky!!! Is there an easy way to point it at the freeview satellite and anyone know a decent PCI card so I can go 'OOOH look lots of definition no content!' Tom te tom te tom -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html