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> as it happens mate no i dont soz lol but i didnt expect a reply like syours > so well done for effort bud... no geforce 8 kicking around then i guess lol My pleasure =) There is a local organisation called freecycle where you might find something though, take a look here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NorthDevon-Freecycle/ It's a good system for people to offload old things they don't want, and you do see computers and suchlike being given away, although more often than not you'll need to go collect anything you ask for. -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html