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On Wednesday 20 June 2007 22:58, Simon Waters wrote: > Tom Potts wrote: > > Type in Linux into Google. > > Who comes up first - and how much work have they done to support it? > > www.linux.org Thats strange - I normally get microsoft 'get the facts' at the top - it would seem my regular letters of complaint have worked! Thats only changed in the last week or so! > > They have about a quarter of a million pages of information on Linux, > all the stuff I tried is freely available for download. > > Next Debian.org, then Wikipedia, then Ubuntu.com -- damn - logs out of > Google, tries again "linux.org" is still number 1, Debian just dropped 6 > places, personalised search - amazing stuff. > > > I don't know how Google's system is weighted but I bet money talks in > > there somewhere. > > I think it is mostly people gaming Google, when you see odd results. I > don't think Google need to take money for the search placings, they get > that for the ads placement, and even some of our smaller clients are > paying them serious money each week. > > Go listen to SEO rockstars. See how people game their search results, > discover how much of the social networking sphere is full of fake > accounts, and why wikipedia was spammed so much etc etc. > > I fully agree there was some jiggery pokery around the Expert Exchange > stuff, but I'm prepared to believe it was because the people doing it > were good at gaming Google, rather than paying Google money. They may do both - but what they do is a common technique - when the search engine Bots come searching they offer the 'paid for' content so the engine will index it. When a browser looks at it they offer the 'pay for this' info instead. So you get your browser to impersonate a bot and loads of free info that you could probably have got from MSN anyhow..... Now if they had any brains at all they'd process the paid-for page information to the bot so it can be indexed but not human read but that would involve 'creating a new idea' and not plagiarising which seems to be beyond them.... Tom te tom te tom -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html