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Just a quick update. Installed the patched Hal on my main system and can confirm it works there too. Rebooted to make sure it remained functional and all is well. I have commented on the Launchpad that the fix works for my systems, so hopefully it will be added to the updates for Feisty soon. Mark -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html