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Hi Mark Thanks but I am afraid it did not work for me! As I remarked the strange thing is that it (the wireless on my lappy ) works from the live CD, but when I install from the same CD it does not. I might try a Debian Install, but I will then have all that work getting the pen to work. Peter -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html