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The misses wants freeview and I wouldnt mind being able to play with tv on the pc. Is there such a thing as a set top box with usb/ethernet - I doubt if I'll be allowed to play with a PC in the living room while she watches something! Tom te tom te tom -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html