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Firstly thanks for pointing me to ncftp its great! and I have used it quite a bit I have run in to a problem that I just can't make out what is going on with ncftp. I can't log in to a particular ftp server with ncftp. "ftp" works from the server and filezilla is working from my desktop to that site but ncftp reports :- robin@thefatcontroller:~$ ncftp www.mysite.com NcFTP 3.2.0 (Aug 05, 2006) by Mike Gleason (http://www.NcFTP.com/contact/). Connecting to xx.yy.zz.aa... ProFTPD 1.2.5 Server (ProFTPD) [ftp.ftpserver.com] Login incorrect. Sleeping 9 seconds... (with names and ipaddress changed) i have also tried starting ncftp with the -u and -u and -p options to force a username and password but get the same message. I am sure its somthing I am doing wrong but just cannot see what. Thanks! -- Robin Cornelius http://www.byteme.org.uk -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html