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At risk of repetition - do we have a searchable mail archive - I only asked cos I couldnt find it! And I've just downloaded http://www.artofillusion.org and its seems to be a pretty good 3d rendered wot can do animations too. Toy story 3 :Gates run - a billionaire tries to stop everyone else having fun but keeps running into reality walls... Tom te tom te tom looking for a good nites kip... -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html