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I fulfil all of those especially: You are addicted to reading every post on DCLUG in spite of only understanding 10% of what is said. Thanks George for brightening up my morning. I'm stuck in, instead of out in the sun, awaiting the plumber to come to do the annual boiler check. Clare -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html