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Paul wrote: To this end I have added their irc channel to the my xchat join list pending fixing, I will sign up to the mailing list for the linuxbierwanderung. (which from now on will be refered to as LBW) in general . This is the second reference to irc today (Tom mentioned it to) What is it? Sorry to be such a newbie, but then I am. Clare -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html