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Yes, it seems this is the popular thing to do at the minute! I thought it doesn't hurt to pass it on to the list... http://www.petitiononline.com/zxcv7nm/ Oh, and the petition is for free hadrware drivers :D Jon -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html