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Neil Williams wrote: > On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 22:54:41 +0000 > Rob Beard <rob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> I must admit I do like OS X although my iMac G3 isn't up to running it >> > > I can tell you why that happens! I used to run OSX but like Matt, I dumped it. I > now run Debian on my iBook and it's fantastic. > > Mac OSX isn't an OS: it's a layer cake. OS9 lies underneath, there's a BSD/OSX > layer on top of that then there's X. That's why on my 30Gb iBook, a *default* OSX > install took over 13Gb!!!!! > > Debian? 6Gb. > > Actually I didn't install OS 9, just OS X. OS 9 is optional for Classic application support and since I didn't have any Classic apps (or any commerical OS X apps coming to think of it) I didn't need it. The main reason I didn't run OS X was because it only had 64MB memory and a 450MHz CPU. Even Debian didn't run very fast on it. Text mode was fine (and a nice high resolution too) but running a GUI wasn't much cop. As an LTSP client it worked much better. I even managed to get it to network boot from my Debian server. :-) >> at any decent sort of speed. With the Mac range going over to x86 CPU's >> eventually the PPC owners are going to have to either upgrade their Macs >> to x86 Macs, stick with what they have or look at alternatives. >> > > The alternative is Debian - Yellow Dog is, sadly, way behind the times. > > Or Ubuntu, or SuSE, or Fedora Core. I must admit, Debian and Ubuntu went on much better than Yellow Dog. YDL didn't have very good sound support. >> I keep reading/hearing that we're a community and we should be doing >> what we can. Some of us can't code but we sure can talk lots about our >> favorite OS :-) >> > > Then write some documentation . . . . > I do when I have time. There seems to be a lot going on in the Ubuntu-UK mailing list with regards making a training video showing new users how to do different tasks. Although I have very little free time at the moment (I seem to be working a 50 hour week at the moment) I do try and write a bit of documentation when I can. Before Friday I have to somehow setup a MythTV box, install Ubuntu on a PC for one of the guys at work (actually I might leave that until Saturday) and I have to play around to get my Mac to do something useful assuming it still works after sitting in the garage for 8 months. > Programmers write bad documentation (and I freely admit that some of that is mine) > because other things get in the way Ahh I know what you mean. I've written small programs for work and I find it a chore finding time to work on the programs, never mind documentation. If I get time I do tend to scribble notes down although I'm not the tidiest person ever and the notes I write usually get lost under piles of CDs and paperwork. Rob -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html