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Sorry if the last missive seemed wierd - got the wrong page up and gibbered! http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/97883/uk-public-backs-copyright-extension-survey.html was the one I was gibbering about... however my points on the linux desktop seem to be supported. Client/server/Open standards is the way to go for almost all companies. Tom te tom te tom -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html