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Have had some good help so far with Kubuntu, thanks to everyone. I find the adept system really good and it certainly helps to avoid the problems with dependencies. What I am wondering now is - all my previous versions of Linux (eg Suse, Mandriva) had some useful programs already included when I installed them. I am referring to such items as Real Player, Acrobat Reader and several plugins for Firefox. I expected these to be present in kubuntu but they are missing. I looked for them in Adept but they are not there either. I know that I can download the RPM files but again there does not seem to be any program around for installing them. I have the Ark program which will handle extracting compressed files, but what about installing them afterwards? Any help please? Neil Winchurst -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html