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It's always worth mentioning the lug, partly as it's a great community, with free discussion and support from users by users, so any advice comes from people who know what it's like to be taking their first steps not just with a new distro, but in the OSS world generally right up to the more advanced things you can do with the software. I think the posters are still on the site, I will have a look at updating them when I get back home Paul -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html