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I sussed my problem, but have no solution. vsftpd is not translating the windows newline characters. Can anyone tell me if they are using vsftpd and can transfer a file correctly. Beware, sending it up and bringing it back works, you need to send it up and then check it locally. Cheers Steve -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html