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M.Blackmore wrote: >On Fri, 2006-06-02 at 14:06 +0100, Simon Williams wrote: > > >>therwise IDE is fine. And >>you will get no speed benefit whatsoever from SATA if you have to go >>through a PCI controller. PCI is slow. Possibly slower than IDE. >> >> >It's not quick, going through a PCI card, but its quite useable, even on >a workstation which has got one in hanging off a card. > >Only reason I went sata when needing replacement disks and/or larger >disks was to "future proof" for new motherboards later on, which will >have native sata. I expect these disks to be in use for some 4-5 years >or so given the average life I seem to get, and they will probably be >swapped out into workstations as the central repository grows in >capacity in time. > > <snip> With regards to a drive lasting 5 years, I'd go for the Seagate drives as they have a 5 year warranty. If the drives don't last 5 years at least you're covered in the event of a drive failure. >I suspect I will continue to use an old P200-400 level with sata add on >card for the duration as a rsync backup server ("backup" in inverteds, >but tape kit costs too much for home use, so its the best low end >solution to shove at the other end of the house hanging off a wire). > >I'd prefer to have only one 'pooter doing myth, samba,nfs,email to keep >the lekky/CO2 costs as low as poss, so that will probably drive things >to a higher spec to cover all the bases. > >Now, heading off a tangentially, what would I need to have one box do >all that AND provide a remote x-windows to 3 or 4 terminals at once >using ancient PCs/old laptops and be of solid performance? > > > Um... a very fast CPU with bags of memory? There are some good deals on dual core Pentium D CPU's at the moment and they have iAMD64 extensions too for 64-bitness. Or a fast Athlon 64 would probably do the job with support for cool & quiet which dynamically slows the CPU down. You can find the Pentium D 805 (2 x 2.66GHz with 2MB cache) at £85 on eBuyer here: http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/107617/rb/19537839255 At that price I'm tempted for one myself, and I mainly use AMD CPU's. >I wonder if its worth the cost of upgrading individual boxes not used >for games but for basic stuff, when the dosh could be put into one >seriously capable multicore beast with oodles of ram, and the remaining >money put into some good monitors. > > > Not a bad idea. I did that for my kids computers. I setup an LTSP server in the loft and used an old 450MHz iMac G3 and IBM P2-266 as terminals. Fine for web browsing/e-mail etc but there were issues with audio which I never did find a fix for. >As a complete aside, can one serve up Win XP remotely like x-windows >sessions or is that a non starter if one needs to use something under >windows? Its not often, but when ya gotta have it ya gotta have it :-( > > If you have a Windows XP Pro desktop PC you can connect to it from another machine (be it Windows or Linux) but only one person can be logged in at a time. For multiple users you'd need a Windows 2003 server. Alternative is trying to get the application running under WINE or finding a Linux equivalent. Or... thinking about it, there is always VNC server installed on a Windows box. Can you think of examples of what you'd want to run on Windows? Rob -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html