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What I mean is, it's horribly unintuitive, but once one has learnt it, it's a lot faster to do things with it than with Lightwave or some such thing (apparently.) Kind of like LaTeX and Openoffice.org: one is higher-quality but nearly unusable, while the other is very intuitive and is just as capable of producing crap as M$ Word 97. hi ben, does anyone beside the blender team say this though? Is open source apriori and neccaserily better than proprietary solutions? I tend to be skeptical of claims made by proprietary software makers, why should i take blenders assertions more seriously do you know? At least it will run on linux, my xp box is gasping like an old geezer.. in peace, csd __________________________________________ Yahoo! DSL ? Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe. FAQ: www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html