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Just looked back over what I had written and see I forgot to mention that you should type init 3 after you've logged in as root. Then start sax2. My apologies for the ommission. By the way init 3 stops the xserver and puts the system in single user mode (ie. failsafe mode). I'm still using a 17" Sony Triniton CRT monitor. A big beast but beautiful! Keith -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe. FAQ: www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html