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> Thanks for any pointers, I would guess it does not like something > somewhere. strangly I can login as root now problem, using kde. kde seems to be ok then. If you make a new user can you log on using that user? Maybe something is wrong/missing in your home directory? James -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe. FAQ: www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html