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On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 11:22:36PM +0100, Tom Brough wrote: > John Botwright wrote: > > >On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 08:10:08PM +0100, Tom Brough wrote: > > > > > >>Its as simple as that.... 2 servers is all I'm asking preferable at > >>least 1Ghz processor / 1 Gbyte memory and some decent disk space. > >> > >> > > > >Hope I don't sound too pessimistic, but what happens if the psu in the > >server dies? Wouldn't it be better to have all the units standalone? > > > > > Nop just buy another PSU. But I appreciate its a single point of > failure. Id like three servers one for standby but I have nt got time or > money to be fussy. 30 x Install, updates / maint. vs. 1 server 1 > software set, infinate number of users, plus the sustainability factor, > sure you may need to replace or augment the servers, but the terminals > will go on running .... and running and running.... no mater how much > the software gets bloated, isnt that worth doing ? > > Technically there is no reason why a terminal shouldnt last a 30+ years. > > Already Im running into problems installing a "low profile" debian based > gui on the first G6-300 because it only has 2Gb drive. If I had the > terminal servers I wouldnt even need to try. > > As for the adminstrator at the other end, Im sure he/she would prefer to > have one machine to maintain rather than 30. > > L - for long life > T - for Tried and tested > S - for sustainable > P - for Perfect (well nearly) > > Besides I would be interested in knowing how you are going to maintain > and syncronise hundreds of user accounts across 30 isolated systems. No > you need a network and central adminstration, which means a server, > which means a single point of failure. So the risk is equivalent on a > traditional network or an LTSP, and totally unworkable on a standalone > model. > > Do the research, and try it out for yourself , then you might find out > why there is no need to be pessimistic :-) > > If your intention is to provide a standalone computer for someone who > "stands alone" then use a standalone configuration. If you want to > provide a clustered desktop in a classroom, training room or office > environment then seriously consider LTSP. As the americans say it gives > you more bang for your buck. > > Any offers of servers please post me of group. > > Thanks. > > Tom. > > > > > > > >>... If I > >>dont get the servers I will have to slave away for the next 30 days > >>installing debian on each one individually (Yuck (not debian just the > >>thought of installing so may boxes)). > >> > >> > >> > > > >Try http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai/ it has information on > >sutomated debian installation for hundreds of PCs at a time. > > > > > >-- > >The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG > >Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the > >message body to unsubscribe. FAQ: www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html > > > > > > > > > -- > The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG > Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the > message body to unsubscribe. FAQ: www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html Hi Tom Sorry my bad. I was under the impression this was for underpriveliged schools, those who do not have access to computer hardware, so I was worried about availability of spares when something breaks. I agree thin clients are the way to go for administration - good luck on your quest and well done for getting linux on the map :) As an aside, on the issue of disk space ; it is not unheard of to mount /usr from nfs. Maybe give that a try if you don't get the LTSP servers in time. You should be able to get away with a slow pc serving files instead of cycles. Cheers, John -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe. FAQ: www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html