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When xdm starts up it does the equivalent of : X :0 -query localhost and shows the local log-in screen, what do I have to tweak to get it to start up by showing the local "chooser", i.e. the equivalent of : X :0 -indirect localhost Basically I'm playing with an old box as a thin client, so the user at start-up should see which (if any) more powerful machines are available on the network. Related to this, it would be nice to have a simple way for a "normal" user to shut down the local machine, which isn't up to running a full-blown desk-top (KDE or Gnome) with this facility built in. From a simpler window manager the user must, first open a terminal (or switch to a text screen), then su to root (meaning that they could wreak untold havoc!), then execute "halt". I could write a script to do this along with an "Are you really sure?" warning, but first I need some way of getting "halt" to work for a non-root user. It works in Gnome so there must be a way. (Sorry to be so stupid, this is one bit of Linux that still has me baffled). Keith (Bailey) -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe.