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I have got suse 8.2 working with the basic nvidia card set up now, so i need to install stuff like kernel sources so i can install the nvidia card drivers from the nvidia site, one issue in the meantime My laptop still runs 8.1. if I plug my camera in to that it comes up automatically as a link on the desktop, however with 8.2 it seems to beep and the icon is not constantly on the desktop, i can still access the camera data though. Has anyone else experiecned similar problems, as my 8.1 mtab file works is it ok to use that to replace whats in the 8.2 mtab file, the only difference is in 8.1 there is a reference to my user name. so it could be bound to that, also not sure sometimes if root does things differently to normal users, (yes i know i should not be in as root). Desktop worked fine with 8.1 The software does seem to be getting better, at least the cd devices are in the right place this time, mplayer has the usual patent issues with decoding dvd data, but I am not really bothered about that. I like the feature where u can place the cursor over the picture and it gives a display of the picture along with useful information very useful, I will try wineX again later, perhaps it should work when i got the proper nvidia drivers installed. paul --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 04/08/03 -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe.