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I`ve installed apt and synaptic like somebody in the list suggested. I`m quite impressed so far... i`ve added a few extra apt sources to the sources.list file as lists at freshrpms.net. Any others worth adding? so far i have... rpm ftp://apt.unl.edu/apt/ 8.0 kde3 kde3-extras ### RedHat 8.0 ## Stable packages rpm ftp://apt-rpm.tuxfamily.org/apt redhat/8.0/en/i386 os updates extra rpm-src ftp://apt-rpm.tuxfamily.org/apt redhat/8.0/en/i386 os updates extra # Red Hat Linux 8.0 rpm http://apt.freshrpms.net redhat/8.0/en/i386 os updates freshrpms rpm-src http://apt.freshrpms.net redhat/8.0/en/i386 os updates freshrpms Mike -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe.