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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > P.J.Weaver@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > HSBC works well too, except for their Business Banking which requires Window$ because it allows them to implement extra security > (now there's a contradiction!!!), something to do with certificates??? Sounds like an excuse for lazy site design, and that is the problem. If you take your business elsewhere because a site is MS only, let them know, it is the only way some sites will realise how much they lose. I've seen some sites claiming that 95% of browsers are IE, but this is just not the case on general purpose sites that are fully accessible to other browsers. Curiously certificate issues was the governments claim (well Microsoft's excuse) for the Government gateway being Microsoft only originally. When I looked into that one it turned out that in fact they had to implement a complicated hack to use certificates because IE didn't support the relevant standard for certificate based authentication, and the fudged solution only worked with IE, and not browsers like Netscape that did implement the relevant standard. I know of no obvious lack of security features in products like Mozilla,it will present certificates and negoiate secure connections nicely if that is your thing. By and large the standards to do this are built on SSL, X509, and the like, and since the building blocks are available as free software most of the free software browsers implement them (at least if one development team member has ever needed it). -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE+Hu6uGFXfHI9FVgYRAjvMAJwIEPf85pEXQLPePx+lB/fNM98JygCdFuya qtV8pZVx8AOQa4LOXE3Sqw0= =SYy9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe.