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Hi, I friend Phil wants broadband and will share the cost of the fees and provide hardware to anyone in semi-perminant accomidation around St. Davids. Can you see a large evergreen wood across the Ex in a W - NW Direction from the city centre. About 1km upstream of the university on the opersite side of the Ex. and about 1 1/2 km upstream of St. Davids? http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=289780&y=94820&z=3&sv=289500,94500&st=4&ar=Y&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf I'm serious, I'm talking about a leaf project router as a gateway with a 802.11b device (linksys/netgear/lucent) connected to some flavour of pringles. ( It works ) There would be an agreement of bandwidth usage etc, simple stuff controlled via tc. But yes a subsidised broadband is available for anyone having difficulty meeting the cost alone ( Hay get a 1Mbps connection instead of that 512Kbps package because we'll help share the cost ) Living out of reach of ADSL is huge a frustration. Community Networks are springing up all over the place. So why not in the Ex Valley? Sorry that this might seem a bit off topic, but I see Linux as more than just a coding thing. Linus once said you've got to "DIY", Wireless networks are about people saying to Telcros, "We don't need you". Well not for the last mile at least. Laters, Bill. -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe.