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Remarking to any user of the _server_ software coresponding to the media viewer, that you deprecate its use, and would prefer MPEG and/or currently Quicktime or Real, would if occurring sufficiently often cause the _point_ of WMV to be blunted. Once the server end is no longer a good or popular choice the desirability of the viewer, and the leverage that MS belive they can exert ("everyone uses this on their servers so you need to download it, sign here") dissipates. -- From one of the Linux desktops of Dr Adrian Midgley http://www.defoam.net/ -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe.