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thanks to various lug members I now have suse installed again. I have a creative awe64 isa card which seems to have been detected & setup during install in that all the modules for sound are sound blaster drivers. Can't get the joystick working though. If I attemp to add a card through yast and enable joystick support then yast reports an error loading the SB modules and won't set up so perhaps there is another way. I didn't get this with 7.2 but of course that didn't have an tick box to set up the joystick either. Thanks in advance everybody. Ray -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe.