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I asked it to open a .pps file, it hung 9/10 of the way through opening it and I killed it. Now if I ask soffice to run it shows an icon for a while, then goes away, and I have a couple of lines in the ps output including soffice.bin and soffice.bin [defunct]. THe latter seems to be completely unkillable - is there an incantation stronger than being root and issuing kill, or from top agreeing to kill 15? -- From one of the Linux desktops of Dr Adrian Midgley http://www.defoam.net/ -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe.