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A dire warning Under Windows 98 the pwl file is encrypted hence typing type file.pwl comes up with jibberish, try this Start - run msconfig.exe click on system.ini tab and scroll down to password list click on the + now on my system I have listed the following Psutton=c:\windows\psutton.pwl User=c:\windows\user.pwl psutton<mypassword in plain text for all to see >=c:\windows\psutton<first letter of password.pwl> try just looking at system.ini via a text editor. I also did a search for my password in the registry and found it near my username in the same format as line 2 above i.e username<password> Can anyone with XP please check this, as if the problem is with that also, then you should really worry. Same goes for NT. etc Paul -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe.