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I've lost the orginal post. I forwarded ti to our firewall guy in case it was of use to him he replied with: That chaps wants a tool called "hping2" and the --icmp-addr option. It's just what he's after. HTH Steve -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe.