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Hi Good point regarding the comments on Microsoft, as I am guilty, I made the comment Windozzzze because it just sits there while booting, something to do with a network card, while linux just ignores it and carries on, ( I am not sure if this would be different if the network card was set up properly). hence it boots faster. I did also comment that having partly switched to icewm from kde, post login is faster i.e from pressing ok to being able to do something. Hope these comments are useful Paul -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe.